Presented by the excellent J. Matthew Bodnar, The Science of Success Podcast aims to explore evidence based personal growth in all its forms, helping people to explore and unleash their potential in all areas of life.

This interview was all about creating influence in both life and in your profession, in particular through having more effective conversations. Whether in a job interview, in talking to prospects or in conversations with friends and family members.

Much of the challenge comes from how you talk to yourself, how you learn from your mistakes and not being afraid to fail in your pursuit of improving your outcomes and circumstances.

There is even homework to do to ensure that you implement what is discussed.

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You can stream it below or listen to it on the Science of Success Podcast website.